This adds to the complexity of what may have occurred. How sad for his family.

Jehovah's Wittness are fanatics and killers. They are responsible for the death of a wonderful, smiling and talented boy.
No reasons can justified the evil thing they did.

I am his uncle, I know what I am talking about.
The Wittness disfellowshipped him, then abandoned him and charged his soul and mind with unbearable amount of guilt.
What in another normal 21 year old brilliant student would have been just a "life" mistake or youth affair, became an motive to suffer behind reason and logic. Stasz was abandoned by his family and all the members of that religion.
All them are now singing and praying, announcing the "happy moment of resurrection". Bunch of despicable fanatics.

I am his uncle, I know what I am talking about.
The Wittness disfellowshipped him, then abandoned him and charged his soul and mind with unbearable amount of guilt.
What in another normal 21 year old brilliant student would have been just a "life" mistake or youth affair, became an motive to suffer behind reason and logic. Stasz was abandoned by his family and all the members of that religion.
All them are now singing and praying, announcing the "happy moment of resurrection". Bunch of despicable fanatics.

Wow. I am sorry life was so difficult for this talented young man that he felt the need to stand in front of a moving train and kill himself. RIP Stanislav.

Sir, My friend, Victor Motyka, was run over by a NJTRANSIT train, last July. I didn't understand why the train could not stop. I still don't understand why trains can't put
In better advance video security warning systems..the tracks are very open.
Please accept my condolences. Stanislav sounds like a wonderful young man. It is such
A shame that he is gone so soon. We share in your sorrow.

Why didn't the Jehovah's Witnesses help him? Instead you say they shunned him because of his "serious sin" and told him he could return to them after he straighten his "path". How pitiful of an organization.

S.E. - OBVIOUSLY the JWs did JUDGE Stanislav!!
And they abandoned him at a time he obviously needed love. You state he was depressed like that's a good reason for his death. Did you or the JWs do anything to HELP him? Besides discipline him and shun him? Love to know what kind of "serious sin" deserves this kind of treatment!

Stasz, my loving nephew, arrived home early last Monday, hours before killing himself.

He had "escaped" to NY two days before but returned HOME that morning.

Was he welcomed by his family with a loving hug, with affection and a smile, with a cup of hot cocoa?
Somebody cover him with a warm blanket scratching his head while he cuddled with his dog in his parents bed?
My nephew was still a boy. A child. I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

Instead what he got was judgement, harsh words, religious fanaticism "¡YOU ARE AGAIN OFFENDING JEHOVA! ¡YOU ARE LYING TO US AND TO GOD! ¡YOU WENT TO NEW YORK TO SEE THAT WOMAN!"

To fall in love can be a very painful experience in a youngster. Specially in one who was brain washed by JW since his most tender childhood.
To fall in love with the "wrong" woman (she was married with another JW) can be complicated, but is not a sin, is part of REAL LIFE(perhaps one of the experiences some of us have been through).

Jehovas´s Wittneses do not help with compassion.
For them, Stasz was "the perfect boy" while he was inside the MISSIONARY SCHOOL.
Immediately after being expelled (disfellowship) he became a mundane and "worldly" person.

Expelled from the JW Missionary Scholl he returned to his home and was CONFINED TO LIVE IN THE SELLER. The contact with his family, including her sister, was reduced to the minimum.

Yes, I write this words with pain and a broken heart. But still with truth and undeniable facts.

I feel disconsolate for my sister because I am afraid she will not survive this unbearable guilt.
I also will die because of my grief and my own guilt: I did not to react with enough strength and persistence to fight against the abominable brain wash they did to Stasz and her sister.

Stasz, dear son, always laughing child, always joking boy, amazing talented musician..... TO LATE I ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS. To late.
I was weak and did not confront ferociously the fanaticism of your mother and your stepfather.
It would be nice to say that "soon we will meet again".... but the truth (not the bitter truth, just the real an simple TRUTH) is that everything finished last Monday.

The Lord will not be angry with Stasz. God bestows each of us life and He is saddened when His children are cut short from that miracle. Stasz was a God fearing man, and the Lord is a forgiving, merciful God. I knew him for two years at Mannes, and the two of us along with various ensembles made powerful music together. All of us are extremely disheartened and even more, shocked at this tragic event. There is no need to point fingers, Stasz would not have wanted that. He was a beautiful sprit that lightened everyone around him. We must reflect that similar spirit. I will pray and keep Stanislov and his family in my thoughts. My name is Patrick Page. My colleagues and I are planning a concert sometime in the early spring in dedication to Stanislov. I will inform his family and loved ones. Please contact me at thealtopatman@gmail.com. I wish you all a wonderful Holiday and happy new year.

My deepest condolences go out to Stanislav's family and friends. How incredibly saddening it is to read these comments. God is loving and merciful, and He undoubtedly welcomed this young man into His arms. May God comfort all those that are grieving over Stanislav....

Very sad indeed. Well said Anna, Patrick and Mimi.
And David, you loved Stanislav in life and death. I am very sorry for your pain and your loss. I am happy he had you in his life. My heart broke when I read your comments. I don't know anybody that hasn't sinned in this life. It is a tremendous tragedy that this young man felt had no option except to kill himself. The JWs come to my door and preach their Godly ways. There is nothing Godly about shunning a young man who grew up in their church. Obviously, he was very troubled by having the church shun him. Get fixed and you can return? Not a Godly way to be.

Anonymous - We all know the Ten Commandments. For you to state this and not offer any condolences is disgusting. Pretty sure you belong to the JWs!

JW is sure one *^%#%^ up group of people.

We in the Juilliard community are mourning the loss of Stasz, whom we knew for many years. We are shocked and upset at this awful news. We dedicated our Dec 22 Pre-College Symphony concert to his memory, where he served as concertmaster throughout his 7 years with us. The world lost a brilliant young musician and overall wonderful person. Rest in Peace, Stasz!

Sam, Mimi, Bonni, Anna, Pat & Rob R... Thank you all for your kind words.

David and Alexander: I am very sorry to hear of your terrible loss. Perhaps others can learn from this tragedy and save lives before it is too late.

It is very sad that this young man took his life and for that I offer my condolences. But maybe Mr David if you are so sad and love your sister so much you should talk to HER instead of airing your familys private and painful business in a forum where nothing for your family will be resolved and you only come off as self serving and hateful. Think of how you can help your family and not bash them or their religious choice. People of every religion sin and people of every religion commit suicide. Put that energy into helping your family and not into harbouring or instigating resentment and more pain to your family.
Laura M.

Laura, it is impossible to help religious fanatics. They will always see it their way. They shunned a 21 year old. Knew he was depressed. Told him to go get fixed and then he could come back to the church. Where was their compassion? They pointed their finger and turned their back on hm. He was barely an adult. I feel David's sharing on this venue helps all of us. The self serving was done by the church who turned their back on this young man.Very strange to me in this day that a religious organization was not more compassionate, concerned and helpful to this young man. They knew he was very troubled over the situation.

A confusing situation for many who are just throwing their opinions out there, if you ask me would not stand up In a court of law why? No one will ever know the whole story because the mind is just too complicated.

I would like to be notified of the concert in the spring. My email is fgrossoff@aol.com. Thank you

One time out of frustration I had asked my sister, "Why do you laugh ALL the time even when your presented with situations that require a more serious approach"? She says, "I laugh because it hides my real pain"....This true life example clearly demonstrates that we CANNOT read hearts people. We DON'T know what is truly on the minds of others.

Sam in this forum stated, "they abandoned him at a time he obviously needed love"
Many people such as his family, friends and members of his congregation did show sincere personal love, attention and great interest in Stanislov because it was openly stated by many. In addition to that, he was known as being "very talented" and to be that talented requires a great deal of LOVE, time and effort on the part of his parents, teachers, etc.... If Stanislov didn't feel loved or was not loved then why did his own sister outwardly express that he was the "best brother"? All of us need love Sam but this doesn't justify us taking our own lives.

Yes, it is a tragic story and we are all affected by it in some way or another but, as was forementioned, he "was an adult". It was said in the forum:"Jehovah's Wittness are fanatics and killers. They are responsible for the death of a wonderful, smiling and talented boy. That's a pretty harsh statement David that is being based unfoundedly. Keep in mind that Stanislov was not forced by his parents or his religion to have any relationship with a married woman (if this actually was the case considering that not one of us was there). He was not forced by his parents and religion to go to a location that was prohibited by lawmakers for pedestrians nor was he forced by his friends, parents/sister or religion to stand there in front of a train while he was being warned by the trains operator to remove himself. These were clear personal decision that was made by an adult who chose to end his own life that way.

To all others posting negative comments: I was not there with him 24/7 since birth, were you? So, do you REALLY know what went on in his life or in the back of his mind? There have been many youths/adults who have commited suicide and they were very loved by their family, church and friends. A great amount of these deaths were caused because they felt tormented and ostracized by the pressures of general society. Was Stanislov any different? NO WAY! And think of all the added pressure Stanislov received because of living up to the expectations of others to be a great violinist.
Do we need to bash what he openly believed and taught while he was alive? Do we need to protest against something we clearly have no basis for? Or judge the religion he was once a part of? Could the pressure to be the best as a violinst influence him in some negative way?
Could the so called "love affair" he had prove to be too much for his bible trained conscience? Did Stanislov put on a smile and laugh because he wanted to hide his true pain? We just don't know ...If your loved one commited suicide would you love it if others who absolutely had NO idea of the events, background or details of that person freely comment and judge? Hardly!

Correction STANISLAV* Sorry

Extremely saden by his death. I had the privelage to se him play. My condolence to ALL his family. It's unfortunat that so many people who find them selfs in a painfull situation turn pain into hate. In all fairness to all religions, it should become a policy by ALL media to disclose the Religion of all criminals and people who committe all sort of atrocities. That surely would level the playing field for hatred for all religions. ???

Religions are made by man. Love and eternity are of God and Staz is where we will all be which is beyond our comprehension. No matter what, love is all that counts and I believe that Staz is in a wonderful place.

kmw

Thank you Kurt. Love & eternity are of God. Stasz is resting from his pain.

Uncle David is the only relative that we heard so far. Should we, for a moment, consider that "he does know what he is talking about", maybe "he knew Stasz close enough" to say what he said, and maybe Uncle David "is not an ignorant about JW religion" as it has been suggested? Stasz was a precious person! He was the light in the room! Maybe Uncle David "did try to talk to his sister and he was not allowed" so this is his way to share with us his frustration and sadness. Stasz, in my view, was more a child (as Uncle David described him) than a man. Are we discussing who is right? the newspapers or his uncle?
I will have Stasz in my heart forever. I love his family and even when I am not a JW, I always admired Stasz's Mom for her values and for the way she raised her kids. I still do.
Don't be so hard on Uncle David. He lost his only and dear nephew with whom he shared a deep passion for music.
Stasz: you have no idea how loved you were and how much you will be missed.

Suicide - How many do you know within the Jehovah's Witnesses
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/221220/1/Suicide-How-many-do-you-know-within-the-JWs

"S" has resorted to using a Straw Man. Construct a position that somewhat resembles your opponent's point, but make sure that your new "straw man" position contains something new that you can now attack so it looks like you have refuted your opponent.

Straw Man #1: Make it sound like Sam said that Stasz was unloved. Sam never said that. Here's the quotes from S's earlier posts:

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Sam in this forum stated, "they abandoned him at a time he obviously needed love"
Many people such as his family, friends and members of his congregation did show sincere personal love, attention and great interest in Stanislov because it was openly stated by many.
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Dear "S", it is obvious that Stasz received a certain amount of love, support and attention during his life being raised as a JW. Sam never implied he wasn't loved. It was the Church-sanctioned 100% REMOVAL of that love that clearly had some impact on Stasz. The JWs know that shunning has power over its targets and that's why they use it. Some people can't stand the shunning and return to the Church, in many cases not because of true repentance, but due to peer pressure and isolation. Others take their own lives. How much of that decision is CAUSED by the JW shunning policy? No one can put an exact number on that, but are you implying that the JW shunning policy had NO influence on Stasz? (Notice, I'm ASKING if that's your point, not just erecting my own straw man and then knocking it down.)

Straw Man #2: Overstate how much those around Stasz claim to know about his mental/emotional condition.

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I was not there with him 24/7 since birth, were you? So, do you REALLY know what went on in his life or in the back of his mind?
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No one made that claim, but you erected a very convenient Straw Man which you easily knocked right down.

No one is making the claim that they were with Stasz "24/7 since birth". No one is claiming to know for sure what was going on in "the back of his mind".

You are ignoring the main thrust of the criticism of JW shunning policies. For extended family and friends to be REQUIRED BY THE CHURCH to completely shun those that have unrepentantly committed what the Church calls "gross sins" is too strong a punishment in many cases. BTW, a few "gross sins" which can get a person disfellowshipped (DFed) include occasional but repeated cigarette smoking, a practice of viewing hard-core porn or disagreeing with JW doctrines or policies.

I do agree with one statement made by "S".

"This true life example clearly demonstrates that we CANNOT read hearts people. We DON'T know what is truly on the minds of others."

Agreed. And yet the JW religion requires a judicial committee of 3 elders with no training in mental health issues to determine whether or not the sinner is truly "repentant". If that's not trying to "read hearts" I don't know what is.

There is no Church-approved policy for bending the rules when it comes to Disfellowshiping. Many individual JWs do bend the rules and show mercy to their DFed relatives and probably prevent a few suicides by doing so. That is why the JWs continually emphasize the importance of upholding the shunning rules in the Watchtower magazine.

I was a JW elder for many years and am still technically a JW in good standing. If I were to openly speak my mind to JW friends and relatives I would also be Disfellowshipped and shunned.